A digital roadmap for 2030: Defining Europe's role after covid-19 https://youtu.be/qeo7oJGxX7o machine transcription of segment edited for clarity, empasis mine **Bill Thompson:** Let's hear now from Anu Bradford and Anu is the Henry L. Moses professor of law and international organisation at Columbia Law School and the director of the school's european legal study center. Also, a senior scholar at Columbia Business School, Jerome A. Chazen Institute for Global Business. And she's the author of the book [The Brussels Effect, How European Union Rules the World.](https://www.brusselseffect.com/) And, and if I could ask you what your three things you think should have changed by 2030? **Anu Bradford:** Thank you, Bill. Hi, everyone. Great to be here. So it's far from the fundamental goal. Which is that the internet should be supporting and not suppressing democracy. The second, how do we get there? So what we need is a sustained commitment from both the technology companies and the governments. To engage in the kind of **technological innovation and regulatory innovation.** That will help us get accomplished that goal. So, what we'll get an example of that? I think the general data protection regulation, outline an important principle, which is privacy by design. The way that we are urging the technology companies to develop for products and services and platforms. So that they incorporate all these regulatory goals. And that is something that we want the technology companies to do. And they take the responsibility to **find a way to curtain, for instance, disinformation** that is placed on everywhere online. But it is not enough to leave this to the technology companies. We need democratic accountability, and we need good effect, regulation. And there I'm looking to europe, for leadership. Europe has shown they can have **tremendous global regulatory clout.** It has the values that can sustain the kind of regulations that we can be quite comfortable in penetrating the global marketplace. At least when we compare to the alternatives. I think that the american techno-libertarianism has shown its limit in how we regulate the internet. We certainly have concerns if the chinese digital authoritarianism would dictate globally. What kind of content and how regulated online? So there is space and **need for the european digital paternalism** to also show us the way forward. But my final thing. And this is a call for europe. That is not enough for europe to be the world's regulatory superpower. It cannot just be the referee in this technology wars between u.s. And china. It needs to get on the field and play the game as well. And it needs to **play defense and it can play oftense.** So, in addition, to having the regulatory frameworks and writing rules for the internet. It also needs to invest in the kind of innovative architecture and infrastructure for the entire europe. Which means that we need to have solid, strong innovated universities. We need to have proactive immigration policy that brings the world's talent to europe to innovate. We need to compete the capital markets, to be able to fund those innovations. Those are just few policies as examples of what it takes. So that we both the regulators and we can be the innovators.